Comments on: Opiates and the Immune System http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/ Getting Through Detox Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:20:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Nicole http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9553 Nicole Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:04:59 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-9553 Im 32, 9 months preg, preparing to deliver what we pray is a healthy baby girl in less then 3 weeks. Ive been on vikes for 6 years, do to a slipped disk in my back and fibro. Ive gotten up to 10 a day, after 5 yrs my tolerance has grown. The dr. tells me I dont have to stop, juts get down to 4 or 5 befor the baby comes and they will ween her off instead of me. My primal instint to do it my self so she does not suffer kicked in long ago, so my dr finaly agreed to let me kick the pills, and took my off work. IM STARTEN TO THINK SHE WAS RIGHT ~ & MAYBE I CANT DO THIS. Last week I dropped to 5 a day, with no real Dt's I was amazed. Now that I have run out & gone cold turkey ~ the Dt's are here already. My last dose was less then 24 hrs ago. I worste night of my life. I jerked and shook of the crawling skin and my legs oh god, my legs... Now I notice every muscle in my body hurts.. No diarrhea yet or vomiting but Im sure its coming. This morning I feel OK... Not great.. Cold one min, hot the next and man what a bitch I am....There is nothing on the market to take to help that wont harm the baby.. So Im stuck doing this alone... And this is just day 1.. Im thinking Im headed right back to the Dr. in the moring for some help. ood luck to those of you doing this on ur own, I feel your pain.. Im 32, 9 months preg, preparing to deliver what we pray is a healthy baby girl in less then 3 weeks. Ive been on vikes for 6 years, do to a slipped disk in my back and fibro. Ive gotten up to 10 a day, after 5 yrs my tolerance has grown. The dr. tells me I dont have to stop, juts get down to 4 or 5 befor the baby comes and they will ween her off instead of me. My primal instint to do it my self so she does not suffer kicked in long ago, so my dr finaly agreed to let me kick the pills, and took my off work. IM STARTEN TO THINK SHE WAS RIGHT ~ & MAYBE I CANT DO THIS. Last week I dropped to 5 a day, with no real Dt’s I was amazed. Now that I have run out & gone cold turkey ~ the Dt’s are here already. My last dose was less then 24 hrs ago. I worste night of my life. I jerked and shook of the crawling skin and my legs oh god, my legs… Now I notice every muscle in my body hurts.. No diarrhea yet or vomiting but Im sure its coming. This morning I feel OK… Not great.. Cold one min, hot the next and man what a bitch I am….There is nothing on the market to take to help that wont harm the baby.. So Im stuck doing this alone… And this is just day 1.. Im thinking Im headed right back to the Dr. in the moring for some help. ood luck to those of you doing this on ur own, I feel your pain..

]]> By: patty http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9530 patty Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:07:09 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-9530 How long does this withdrawal last, it is 6days I am nausious and weak, trying to drink a lot of liquids. Diarrhea.my fore arms ache worse at night cant eat, feel depressed. i AM WORKING WITH kIASER but I am a wreck, even with the drugs they gave zanzflex, valuim , visteril. robaxin. every thing is worse at night. thanks if you can encourage me. How long does this withdrawal last, it is 6days I am nausious and weak, trying to drink a lot of liquids. Diarrhea.my fore arms ache worse at night cant eat, feel depressed. i AM WORKING WITH kIASER but I am a wreck, even with the drugs they gave zanzflex, valuim , visteril. robaxin. every thing is worse at night. thanks if you can encourage me.

]]> By: Retro http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9459 Retro Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:25:59 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-9459 You guys should look into using Subutex or Suboxone for either tapering off of opiates or as maintanence therapy. It is a mixed agonist/antagonist that, combined with naloxone in the Suboxone formula, or just buprenorphine in Subutex, that is approved for opiate addiction. One simply waits until the withdrawals kick in (about 24 hours after last dose) to take it and all of the symptoms start to fade away. Chills, sweats, cramping, pain and worst of all, cravings are all taken care of. It has a long half-life so one sublingal dose lasts for the entire day. Best of all, it has practically no addiction liability (but some, it is a partial opiate agonist/antagonist) and none when combined with naloxone. Also, it is known that buprenorphine boosts immunity. Hope this helps some folks out. You guys should look into using Subutex or Suboxone for either tapering off of opiates or as maintanence therapy. It is a mixed agonist/antagonist that, combined with naloxone in the Suboxone formula, or just buprenorphine in Subutex, that is approved for opiate addiction. One simply waits until the withdrawals kick in (about 24 hours after last dose) to take it and all of the symptoms start to fade away. Chills, sweats, cramping, pain and worst of all, cravings are all taken care of. It has a long half-life so one sublingal dose lasts for the entire day. Best of all, it has practically no addiction liability (but some, it is a partial opiate agonist/antagonist) and none when combined with naloxone. Also, it is known that buprenorphine boosts immunity. Hope this helps some folks out.

]]> By: lena http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9422 lena Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:39:35 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-9422 bless you for caring enough, the physical pain will get better for you at this point. Hang in there!:) my opinion, one of the Most difficult aspects of detoxing yourself is the complete lack of understanding others have.Just like ANY other affliction-it's easy to say " I UNDERSTAND" but only those who have actually experienced some of the same difficulties your putting yourself through can say "yeah, i know what you feel" . Have faith, there will come a moment, or day or night when you WILL be pleasantly surprised to notice the pain fading and Your ABILITY to endure is gaining ground. best wishes& remember your NOT ALONE bless you for caring enough, the physical pain will get better for you at this point. Hang in there!:) my opinion, one of the Most difficult aspects of detoxing yourself is the complete lack of understanding others have.Just like ANY other affliction-it’s easy to say ” I UNDERSTAND” but only those who have actually experienced some of the same difficulties your putting yourself through can say “yeah, i know what you feel” . Have faith, there will come a moment, or day or night when you WILL be pleasantly surprised to notice the pain fading and Your ABILITY to endure is gaining ground. best wishes& remember your NOT ALONE

]]> By: metoo http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9183 metoo Tue, 04 May 2010 19:50:40 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-9183 Anonymous...all I can say is "read the Thomas Recipe" !! If you've come this far, you can find that also on this website. It works. Hang in there. Anonymous…all I can say is “read the Thomas Recipe” !! If you’ve come this far, you can find that also on this website. It works. Hang in there.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9178 Anonymous Mon, 03 May 2010 18:59:57 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-9178 I've been taking between 6-10 vicodin a day(500 mg.) for about 2years now - after a car accident ruined my neck (and the surgery that seemed to make me worse!) I've decided to stop taking the prescription pain pills because they aren't working anymore and I REFUSE to go on something stronger. It's been about 36 hours since my last dose and my skin is crawling!! I cannot hold still either... Nighttime is horrible! How bad is this going to get??? Is the worst of it still ahead of me? Someone please write.... I’ve been taking between 6-10 vicodin a day(500 mg.) for about 2years now – after a car accident ruined my neck (and the surgery that seemed to make me worse!) I’ve decided to stop taking the prescription pain pills because they aren’t working anymore and I REFUSE to go on something stronger. It’s been about 36 hours since my last dose and my skin is crawling!! I cannot hold still either… Nighttime is horrible! How bad is this going to get??? Is the worst of it still ahead of me? Someone please write….

]]> By: jeff http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-8866 jeff Thu, 25 Mar 2010 13:32:38 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-8866 Im a business owner who is at the near of collapse. My business has gone from 22 employees to 4 . My wife has left and i have joint physical custody. i was taking 22o miil. of codeine(22 x 10s) a day . i have weened myself down to 10 7.5s a day . I am at the sick part and cant go no lower without being sick. It is getting harder and harder to find a supply and have started to find percocet to replace. i want off!!! I have the will power but i have to slowly do it because of my daughter. If I enter into a detox i will be labeled and can lose my daughter. Im 45 and my daughter is everything to me. How do i get compleely weened off. Advancing to higher drugs will only lead to my doom!!! All over a toothache 2 years ago. UNBELIEVABLE!!! Im a business owner who is at the near of collapse. My business has gone from 22 employees to 4 . My wife has left and i have joint physical custody. i was taking 22o miil. of codeine(22 x 10s) a day . i have weened myself down to 10 7.5s a day . I am at the sick part and cant go no lower without being sick. It is getting harder and harder to find a supply and have started to find percocet to replace. i want off!!! I have the will power but i have to slowly do it because of my daughter. If I enter into a detox i will be labeled and can lose my daughter. Im 45 and my daughter is everything to me. How do i get compleely weened off. Advancing to higher drugs will only lead to my doom!!! All over a toothache 2 years ago. UNBELIEVABLE!!!

]]> By: Rossi http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-8851 Rossi Sat, 13 Mar 2010 04:01:35 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-8851 Dear Frustrated/Confused wife...I hate to tell you this, but you leaving may be what it takes for him to realize that the vikes gotta GO!!! I just lost my sucessful business over My 2nd round with this crap. I quit once last Sept. & never felt BETTER...then, like it says above, I got the wosrt cold in the world! Took some HEAVY anti-biotics to get over it. Then, for the same reson I got hooked in the 1st place, I had another tooth blow up on me & back to the dealer I went, telling myself I'd just buy 10 or so to "get over" my toothace. ....Well...here I am 4 months later & my addiction got worse to the tune of spending $100-150 a DAY for my habit ....I KNEW the lights would get shut off, but as long as I was on my opiate high, NOTHING mattered! NOW...let me tell you...I have weaned down to 1/3 a norco every 5 hours now & the DT's are starting to kick in. If you never had em...let me tell you what your hubby goes thru when he stops taking the pills...you feel like you are LITERALLY going to die! Your skin crwls SOO bad,,, you are FREEZING 1 second, BURNIN up the next, you feel like you are going to barf every second, you get SEVERE diahrria, and LOTS more!...it's enuff to make you not care about ANTHING or ANYBODY other than gettin sum more pills in ya asap do you can feel "normal" again! NOW...THERE IS LIGHT @ THE END OF THE TUNNEL! The key is TAPERING...tell him to take his normal dose for a week, then, reduce it by 1/4 a pill for the next week, then 1/2 a pill the next week, etc....He WILL still start to feel the Withdrawal kickin in around 1/2 a norco or less, but, if you can support him & help him remain strong & do "The Thomas Recipe" vitamins, etc exactly as layed out on this site, it will help tremendously. Just realize how HORRIBLE he is feeling through all this & try to be understanding & supportive. He WILL need some QUIT & Relaxation time with no screamin kids, etc. It Is the HARDEST thing he will ever do, but once your down to a crump of a pill for a dose & finally free, he won't belive how much BETTER he will feel! He'll be more emotional, ...be prepared, because his sex drive will increase BIGTIME, Senses of taste, feel, hearing, etc. will all go back to mormal & he'll have TONS of energy! I was there last Sept! I'm almost there again, but it's not easy to do, I can assure you. Keep in touch on this blog, too! ...hope this helps! God bless Dear Frustrated/Confused wife…I hate to tell you this, but you leaving may be what it takes for him to realize that the vikes gotta GO!!! I just lost my sucessful business over My 2nd round with this crap. I quit once last Sept. & never felt BETTER…then, like it says above, I got the wosrt cold in the world! Took some HEAVY anti-biotics to get over it. Then, for the same reson I got hooked in the 1st place, I had another tooth blow up on me & back to the dealer I went, telling myself I’d just buy 10 or so to “get over” my toothace. ….Well…here I am 4 months later & my addiction got worse to the tune of spending $100-150 a DAY for my habit ….I KNEW the lights would get shut off, but as long as I was on my opiate high, NOTHING mattered! NOW…let me tell you…I have weaned down to 1/3 a norco every 5 hours now & the DT’s are starting to kick in. If you never had em…let me tell you what your hubby goes thru when he stops taking the pills…you feel like you are LITERALLY going to die! Your skin crwls SOO bad,,, you are FREEZING 1 second, BURNIN up the next, you feel like you are going to barf every second, you get SEVERE diahrria, and LOTS more!…it’s enuff to make you not care about ANTHING or ANYBODY other than gettin sum more pills in ya asap do you can feel “normal” again! NOW…THERE IS LIGHT @ THE END OF THE TUNNEL! The key is TAPERING…tell him to take his normal dose for a week, then, reduce it by 1/4 a pill for the next week, then 1/2 a pill the next week, etc….He WILL still start to feel the Withdrawal kickin in around 1/2 a norco or less, but, if you can support him & help him remain strong & do “The Thomas Recipe” vitamins, etc exactly as layed out on this site, it will help tremendously. Just realize how HORRIBLE he is feeling through all this & try to be understanding & supportive. He WILL need some QUIT & Relaxation time with no screamin kids, etc. It Is the HARDEST thing he will ever do, but once your down to a crump of a pill for a dose & finally free, he won’t belive how much BETTER he will feel! He’ll be more emotional, …be prepared, because his sex drive will increase BIGTIME, Senses of taste, feel, hearing, etc. will all go back to mormal & he’ll have TONS of energy! I was there last Sept! I’m almost there again, but it’s not easy to do, I can assure you. Keep in touch on this blog, too! …hope this helps! God bless

]]> By: Frustrated/Confused wife http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-8850 Frustrated/Confused wife Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:06:06 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-8850 I am the wife of an opiate addict. We have been together for 5 years and have a 4 year old son. He has been addicted to opiates for 41/2 years. He has tried to quit more times than I can count, but never succeeds. I dont think he has ever made it passed a couple of hours. It is distroying our lives. We almost got a divorce, but I dont want to leave. I want to make it through this and be stronger for it. I just dont know what to do. I HATE opiates. Is there any advice ANYONE can give me. I know it is hard to quit. but if your going to loose your family or your life over it, come on! I am the wife of an opiate addict. We have been together for 5 years and have a 4 year old son. He has been addicted to opiates for 41/2 years. He has tried to quit more times than I can count, but never succeeds. I dont think he has ever made it passed a couple of hours. It is distroying our lives. We almost got a divorce, but I dont want to leave. I want to make it through this and be stronger for it. I just dont know what to do. I HATE opiates. Is there any advice ANYONE can give me. I know it is hard to quit. but if your going to loose your family or your life over it, come on!

]]> By: ana griffith http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/opiate-withdrawal/opiates-immune-system/comment-page-1/#comment-4222 ana griffith Sun, 27 Dec 2009 16:23:11 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=52#comment-4222 I too have noticed the effects on the immune system from vicodin. I have taken them for 2 years for chronic pain. When i quit taking them i get sick. (flu / common cold sick) depending on how many days i go without and other things. You website seem spot on with the info. I know lots of users.... I too have noticed the effects on the immune system from vicodin. I have taken them for 2 years for chronic pain. When i quit taking them i get sick. (flu / common cold sick) depending on how many days i go without and other things.

You website seem spot on with the info.
I know lots of users….

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