Comments on: The Thomas Recipe for Opiate Detox http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/ Getting Through Detox Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:20:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jaymee http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9749 Jaymee Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:20:46 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9749 camcrush, not sure of your gender :) but some other small projects can be to dust and alphabetize your dvd collection. Same with books-dust them then organize them by author, subject, color, whatever :) just keep yourself occupied. YOU CAN DO THIS! It will hurt, it will suck, it will be miserable. but.....its SO WORTH IT. Please let us know how you're doing. If you have any other questions, just post them :) Remember, we all inspire each other. Proud of you already! camcrush, not sure of your gender :) but some other small projects can be to dust and alphabetize your dvd collection. Same with books-dust them then organize them by author, subject, color, whatever :) just keep yourself occupied.
YOU CAN DO THIS! It will hurt, it will suck, it will be miserable. but…..its SO WORTH IT. Please let us know how you’re doing. If you have any other questions, just post them :) Remember, we all inspire each other. Proud of you already!

]]> By: Jaymee http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9748 Jaymee Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:15:56 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9748 B6 100 mg- I would take this in the morning while I was drinking my coffee. All the vitamins say on the label to take them preferably with a meal. Not really an option for us during detox what with the lack of appetite and the intestinal issues. Use the Immodium as needed. Soak in hot baths and take hot showers to work the knots our of your neck and back. Keep your mind and your hands occupied. I would stretch out on the bed in a slight sitting position and I would knit/crochet/weave on my tiny loom while my husband would read classic books aloud to me. my mind and my hands were occupied. REALLY helped with the fidgeting. B6 100 mg- I would take this in the morning while I was drinking my coffee. All the vitamins say on the label to take them preferably with a meal. Not really an option for us during detox what with the lack of appetite and the intestinal issues.

Use the Immodium as needed. Soak in hot baths and take hot showers to work the knots our of your neck and back. Keep your mind and your hands occupied. I would stretch out on the bed in a slight sitting position and I would knit/crochet/weave on my tiny loom while my husband would read classic books aloud to me. my mind and my hands were occupied. REALLY helped with the fidgeting.

]]> By: Jaymee http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9747 Jaymee Wed, 01 Sep 2010 05:08:56 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9747 Ativan .5 mgs- I was prescribed 30 pills. I took one tablet every six hrs for the first 4 days. Then I tapered down per the doc's orders b/c you shouldn't just stop a med like ativan, valium, or klonopin. I tapered starting the 5th day by taking 1 in morning, a half in afternoon, and 1 at dinner. Toast was all I was able to handle at that point still, but you really do need sustenance. 6th day I did a half in the morning, a half in afternoon, and a full one at dinnertime. Essentially I just tapered until the script was gone. Ambien 10 mg- Everyone is different, but I found that it takes at least an hour for this to kick in for me. It definitely helped to get some sleep. It's a choice for you, though. Some choose not to use prescription sleep aids b/c they can be habit forming. I would take this between 10-11pm. Potassium 595 mg- I would take one pill at 9pm Valerian 450mg-I would take 4 capsules at 9pm along with the potassium. If I was still awake at midnight, which I usually was since sleep is so rare during detox, I would take another 4 capsules. Keep in mind that this was also along with the ambien. My doc said that it was fine to mix these together. Ativan .5 mgs- I was prescribed 30 pills. I took one tablet every six hrs for the first 4 days. Then I tapered down per the doc’s orders b/c you shouldn’t just stop a med like ativan, valium, or klonopin. I tapered starting the 5th day by taking 1 in morning, a half in afternoon, and 1 at dinner. Toast was all I was able to handle at that point still, but you really do need sustenance. 6th day I did a half in the morning, a half in afternoon, and a full one at dinnertime. Essentially I just tapered until the script was gone.

Ambien 10 mg- Everyone is different, but I found that it takes at least an hour for this to kick in for me. It definitely helped to get some sleep. It’s a choice for you, though. Some choose not to use prescription sleep aids b/c they can be habit forming. I would take this between 10-11pm.

Potassium 595 mg- I would take one pill at 9pm

Valerian 450mg-I would take 4 capsules at 9pm along with the potassium. If I was still awake at midnight, which I usually was since sleep is so rare during detox, I would take another 4 capsules. Keep in mind that this was also along with the ambien. My doc said that it was fine to mix these together.

]]> By: Jaymee http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9746 Jaymee Wed, 01 Sep 2010 04:57:29 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9746 Hey, camcrush: I am truly sorry that it took this long for me to read your post and respond. Work has been keeping me at the store crazy hours. To answer your questions, This is exactly what I did and the meds/vitamin supplements I took (slightly altered from the Thomas Recipe due to financial restraints). Please realize that I am not in any way a medical professional. This is just how I got through the worst of it with my doc's help. Clonidine Patch .01 mg per day dosage-I started this 2 days before I stopped the vics. I knew that I had about 2 days worth of vics left, and I had read somewhere that even thought its a 7 day patch it can take up to 24 hrs before the full effects kick in. The upside of the patch is that its transdermal-it releases the med through your skin at a constant dosing throughout the day. Plus you don't have to worry about another pill to take since you change it every 7 days. I used the clonidine patch for the first 3 weeks. My doc had prescribed 4, but said that my heart rate had begun to decrease I could give up the patch after week 2 or 3. That's another thing: when using the clonidine its a good idea to keep track of your heart rate. lay down in a resting position and find your heartbeat in either your neck or wrist and count the number of times your heart beats in one minute. I did this twice a day, about mid-day and right before I tried to sleep. I kept a small notepad on my nightstand. After the second or third week of being on the clonidine and narcotic-free you should see your heart rate number will be getting lower. When you feel ready just take off the patch. Hey, camcrush: I am truly sorry that it took this long for me to read your post and respond. Work has been keeping me at the store crazy hours. To answer your questions, This is exactly what I did and the meds/vitamin supplements I took (slightly altered from the Thomas Recipe due to financial restraints). Please realize that I am not in any way a medical professional. This is just how I got through the worst of it with my doc’s help.

Clonidine Patch .01 mg per day dosage-I started this 2 days before I stopped the vics. I knew that I had about 2 days worth of vics left, and I had read somewhere that even thought its a 7 day patch it can take up to 24 hrs before the full effects kick in. The upside of the patch is that its transdermal-it releases the med through your skin at a constant dosing throughout the day. Plus you don’t have to worry about another pill to take since you change it every 7 days. I used the clonidine patch for the first 3 weeks. My doc had prescribed 4, but said that my heart rate had begun to decrease I could give up the patch after week 2 or 3. That’s another thing: when using the clonidine its a good idea to keep track of your heart rate. lay down in a resting position and find your heartbeat in either your neck or wrist and count the number of times your heart beats in one minute. I did this twice a day, about mid-day and right before I tried to sleep. I kept a small notepad on my nightstand. After the second or third week of being on the clonidine and narcotic-free you should see your heart rate number will be getting lower. When you feel ready just take off the patch.

]]> By: camcrush http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9664 camcrush Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:18:09 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9664 Jaymee, hey i have been tryin to round up all the meds and vitamins to start the detox i also have klonopin and clonidine. my question for you is i want to know how much i should take, how often and also for how long? To everyone else, Has anyone tried taking klonopin, clonidine, suboxone and all the other meds and vitamins for the recipe? main concern is the suboxone seeing that no one on here really has tried it in the mix with everything else? any help is really needed i am ready to start detox right now so info soon would be great! thanks everyone this blog has brought a great spirit to my eyes and i want nothingmore then to have my life back. I think a lot of people on here are recovering off vicodin i am currently doing oxycontin. weened myself down to about 40mg a day now (from 200mg!) and i am 100% commited to putting this in the past right here right now. thanks for the help! Jaymee,
hey i have been tryin to round up all the meds and vitamins to start the detox i also have klonopin and clonidine. my question for you is i want to know how much i should take, how often and also for how long?

To everyone else,
Has anyone tried taking klonopin, clonidine, suboxone and all the other meds and vitamins for the recipe? main concern is the suboxone seeing that no one on here really has tried it in the mix with everything else? any help is really needed i am ready to start detox right now so info soon would be great! thanks everyone this blog has brought a great spirit to my eyes and i want nothingmore then to have my life back. I think a lot of people on here are recovering off vicodin i am currently doing oxycontin. weened myself down to about 40mg a day now (from 200mg!) and i am 100% commited to putting this in the past right here right now. thanks for the help!

]]> By: Jaymee http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9589 Jaymee Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:55:30 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9589 Snoman: I'm hanging in there, thanks for checking on me. I'm on day 13 of no vics, day 10 of no tramadol, and just woke up from my second night of no ambien. The first night of w/o ambien i slept for about 6 and 1/2 hrs un-interrupted. I think that it was due to the fact that I worked a crazy busy 7 hr shift at work. Wanted to whack a few customers in the face w/ a board full of nails. Why do people think that we hide what they want "in the back"??? Yes, we keep a huge box full of the exact movie you want in our office and when you ask for it we lie and tell you that we're out. Gah. Sorry about that tangent. It seems that while going through this excellent customer service is just not my forte. Anyway, last night was rough. I worked day instead of evening yesterday and though I was exhausted come bedtime, sleep was still eluding me. Finally fell asleep around 4am but continued to wake up every 30-40 minutes until I decided to stay up around 8:30am. I'm still on the valerian, potassium, and the clonidine patch. Last day for the patch is tomorrow. Snoman, I really hope that we get some good restful sleep tonight. The bananas should help the RLS. I know what you mean about feeling alive. I picked up my guitar 2 days ago for the first time in months. A friend's band has decided to record an album and they want a female vocalist for one of the songs & they asked me to sing. All of the possibilities that I let slip by for so long are now giving me joy and excitement. Take care everyone. It really does get a little better each day. Keep yourself busy and remember that we're all here on this site going or have gone through the same things. None of us is alone. If you're just reading and haven't posted, give it a try. It really does help to have an outlet. Snoman: I’m hanging in there, thanks for checking on me. I’m on day 13 of no vics, day 10 of no tramadol, and just woke up from my second night of no ambien. The first night of w/o ambien i slept for about 6 and 1/2 hrs un-interrupted. I think that it was due to the fact that I worked a crazy busy 7 hr shift at work. Wanted to whack a few customers in the face w/ a board full of nails. Why do people think that we hide what they want “in the back”??? Yes, we keep a huge box full of the exact movie you want in our office and when you ask for it we lie and tell you that we’re out. Gah. Sorry about that tangent. It seems that while going through this excellent customer service is just not my forte. Anyway, last night was rough. I worked day instead of evening yesterday and though I was exhausted come bedtime, sleep was still eluding me. Finally fell asleep around 4am but continued to wake up every 30-40 minutes until I decided to stay up around 8:30am. I’m still on the valerian, potassium, and the clonidine patch. Last day for the patch is tomorrow. Snoman, I really hope that we get some good restful sleep tonight. The bananas should help the RLS. I know what you mean about feeling alive. I picked up my guitar 2 days ago for the first time in months. A friend’s band has decided to record an album and they want a female vocalist for one of the songs & they asked me to sing. All of the possibilities that I let slip by for so long are now giving me joy and excitement. Take care everyone. It really does get a little better each day. Keep yourself busy and remember that we’re all here on this site going or have gone through the same things. None of us is alone. If you’re just reading and haven’t posted, give it a try. It really does help to have an outlet.

]]> By: Snoman http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9583 Snoman Sun, 15 Aug 2010 22:28:44 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9583 Jaymee... How are you doing? Hang in there, it's worth it!!!.... Day 15 for me and I've had a list of small things, a slight cold and flu symptoms hit me a few days ago but lasted for about 24 hours. STILL not sleeping right, fall asleep fast but wake up around 2am and cant get back to sleep. RLS is back also, but I'm gonna try bananas and see if that works. Emotions are back under control at least, and I don't feel depressed anymore, in fact, I feel more alive then ever, I'm controlling my pain with a non narcotic naproxen. Seems to work awesome for me. Better then the vics and non addictive. Good luck folks, and please don't fool yourselves into thinking you can control the pills " this time" if you play with snakes, sooner or later your gonna get bitten. Good luck, and remember we know what your going through.... Jaymee… How are you doing? Hang in there, it’s worth it!!!…. Day 15 for me and I’ve had a list of small things, a slight cold and flu symptoms hit me a few days ago but lasted for about 24 hours. STILL not sleeping right, fall asleep fast but wake up around 2am and cant get back to sleep. RLS is back also, but I’m gonna try bananas and see if that works. Emotions are back under control at least, and I don’t feel depressed anymore, in fact, I feel more alive then ever, I’m controlling my pain with a non narcotic naproxen. Seems to work awesome for me. Better then the vics and non addictive. Good luck folks, and please don’t fool yourselves into thinking you can control the pills ” this time” if you play with snakes, sooner or later your gonna get bitten. Good luck, and remember we know what your going through….

]]> By: jen p http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9567 jen p Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:54:52 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9567 Char,glad to hear uve been clean the same amount of time as me,and I feel tired a lot,I gained 10lbs,because my appetite is actually back.recently though,I got my refill from dr.and gave them to a person at work,but I kept half the bottle and I took aroumd 3 a day of norco....it felt good,but I felt guilty...the difference from before,was that if I was running out,then I would make sure I had a constant supply.but now they ran out and I don't find myself wanting to go find more....but now I know I don't have to rely on them....I jst don't wanto go through that withdrawel aggain...I think its ok to do recreationally tome time if u can handle it...it did feel good on those bad days at work.lol...not encourging it at all...jst have to admit that I relapsed,but at the same toime,it showed me that I can control the addiction now,and don't have to get out of bed first thing and cluck out for the pill...good luck to you all,and stay off of them....btw,it really didn't feel that great when I took the first pill,I actually noticed I feel way better without them....thereas such a difference now... Char,glad to hear uve been clean the same amount of time as me,and I feel tired a lot,I gained 10lbs,because my appetite is actually back.recently though,I got my refill from dr.and gave them to a person at work,but I kept half the bottle and I took aroumd 3 a day of norco….it felt good,but I felt guilty…the difference from before,was that if I was running out,then I would make sure I had a constant supply.but now they ran out and I don’t find myself wanting to go find more….but now I know I don’t have to rely on them….I jst don’t wanto go through that withdrawel aggain…I think its ok to do recreationally tome time if u can handle it…it did feel good on those bad days at work.lol…not encourging it at all…jst have to admit that I relapsed,but at the same toime,it showed me that I can control the addiction now,and don’t have to get out of bed first thing and cluck out for the pill…good luck to you all,and stay off of them….btw,it really didn’t feel that great when I took the first pill,I actually noticed I feel way better without them….thereas such a difference now…

]]> By: Jaymee http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9563 Jaymee Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:53:25 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9563 If any of you are pray-ers, please paray for me tonight. It's my first night back at work, only a 5 hr shift, but I'll be on my feet the entire time training a new employee. I'm terrified that the leg/hip/back pain is going to get worse from this. Hope all of you are doing well. WE CAN DO THIS! If any of you are pray-ers, please paray for me tonight. It’s my first night back at work, only a 5 hr shift, but I’ll be on my feet the entire time training a new employee. I’m terrified that the leg/hip/back pain is going to get worse from this. Hope all of you are doing well. WE CAN DO THIS!

]]> By: Char http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox/comment-page-6/#comment-9561 Char Wed, 11 Aug 2010 03:57:29 +0000 http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/?p=156#comment-9561 I meant to say almost four months. I meant to say almost four months.

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