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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question for anyone who has used Kratom to detox; is it safe to take a benzo with it? How did you find the right dose, did you just keep titrating up until you were kind of comfortable? Is possible to OD on the stuff? Finally, if I use it for a week for detox purposes will it just delay my withdrawal? Thank you. I&#039;m really struggling here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question for anyone who has used Kratom to detox; is it safe to take a benzo with it? How did you find the right dose, did you just keep titrating up until you were kind of comfortable? Is possible to OD on the stuff? Finally, if I use it for a week for detox purposes will it just delay my withdrawal? Thank you. I&#8217;m really struggling here.</p>
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		<title>By: Narcotic no more</title>
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		<dc:creator>Narcotic no more</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have looked and looked for something to get this done and over with as soon as possible. I was up to no more than 6 norcos a day, with the occasional spike of up to 10 randomly or in stressful situation. I have not gone exact by the Thomas Recipe doing to what I immediately have, I ate a couple bananas a day, doubled up on my multivitamin/ anti oxidant regimens along with the fish oil I take every day. I also drank a bit of kombucha each. I can say I thought my with drawl symptoms were going to be much worse but I&#039;m a few hours into day 3 and I just can&#039;t sit still like a child who has had too much sugar and the trouble sleeping. Tonight I am going to try to take melatonin to see if that works and I can get a good night sleep seeing how I have work against 8am. I guess I just made the recipe somewhat fit what I had immediately and hope for it to be done with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have looked and looked for something to get this done and over with as soon as possible. I was up to no more than 6 norcos a day, with the occasional spike of up to 10 randomly or in stressful situation. I have not gone exact by the Thomas Recipe doing to what I immediately have, I ate a couple bananas a day, doubled up on my multivitamin/ anti oxidant regimens along with the fish oil I take every day. I also drank a bit of kombucha each. I can say I thought my with drawl symptoms were going to be much worse but I&#8217;m a few hours into day 3 and I just can&#8217;t sit still like a child who has had too much sugar and the trouble sleeping. Tonight I am going to try to take melatonin to see if that works and I can get a good night sleep seeing how I have work against 8am. I guess I just made the recipe somewhat fit what I had immediately and hope for it to be done with.</p>
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		<title>By: BonzaiSr</title>
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		<dc:creator>BonzaiSr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 11:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So very enlightening to read and learn, thanks to all posters here! Not sure how I fit in here. On opiates 30 plus years, tylen*l based, liver transplant post 4 years, mild rejection 3 years now. First time with serious w/d&#039;s just in last 4 months as I never pushed the envelope. Being pragmatic and a tightwad, if I ran out, so be it. Co-pays only! I can&#039;t take anything that even remotely cleans my system or adds a burden to my new liver as the immunosuppressive drugs lose their effect in my case. Plus ended up in the 40 percent of transplantees that become diabetic. Paying the piper back, paying paul back, for me has only happened after I was scraping the bottom of the barrel. No big revelations here, just please take care of the OEM organs. Best wishes and peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So very enlightening to read and learn, thanks to all posters here! Not sure how I fit in here. On opiates 30 plus years, tylen*l based, liver transplant post 4 years, mild rejection 3 years now. First time with serious w/d&#8217;s just in last 4 months as I never pushed the envelope. Being pragmatic and a tightwad, if I ran out, so be it. Co-pays only! I can&#8217;t take anything that even remotely cleans my system or adds a burden to my new liver as the immunosuppressive drugs lose their effect in my case. Plus ended up in the 40 percent of transplantees that become diabetic. Paying the piper back, paying paul back, for me has only happened after I was scraping the bottom of the barrel. No big revelations here, just please take care of the OEM organs. Best wishes and peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Need Some Inspiration PLEASE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Need Some Inspiration PLEASE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 17:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jillian
i know the feeling.  it really sucks.  i had been taking vic for over 6 yrs straight and got off of them about 7 mos ago.  i recently fell off the wagon and am back where is stated.  you are not alone!! keep posting. try to follow the thomas recipe.  it helps and as for me anxiety gets to me so have to use a couple zannies for that or for sleep.  the first few days are the worst and once you get past that its all much easier..  its a mind set.  you have to set a date and time and just do it!!! thats the hardest part. you have to really really want it and stick with it.  i keep falling back off but i think its cuz i have not made my mind up 100%.  you have to give it 100% no mater what.  hope you are hanging in there. i will try to help you through this if you keep posting and maybe we can do it together.  your friend neesip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jillian<br />
i know the feeling.  it really sucks.  i had been taking vic for over 6 yrs straight and got off of them about 7 mos ago.  i recently fell off the wagon and am back where is stated.  you are not alone!! keep posting. try to follow the thomas recipe.  it helps and as for me anxiety gets to me so have to use a couple zannies for that or for sleep.  the first few days are the worst and once you get past that its all much easier..  its a mind set.  you have to set a date and time and just do it!!! thats the hardest part. you have to really really want it and stick with it.  i keep falling back off but i think its cuz i have not made my mind up 100%.  you have to give it 100% no mater what.  hope you are hanging in there. i will try to help you through this if you keep posting and maybe we can do it together.  your friend neesip</p>
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		<title>By: FLAgirl1974</title>
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		<dc:creator>FLAgirl1974</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 16:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone.  This is a great site. I have been reading posts for HOURS!!!!  just wondering if people are still readin.....   ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone.  This is a great site. I have been reading posts for HOURS!!!!  just wondering if people are still readin&#8230;..   ??</p>
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		<title>By: Jillian Rodriguez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jillian Rodriguez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 10:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been taking tramadol 50 and vicodine 10 for three years for cronic back pain from a car accident I recently had a serious spine surgery which has put me on dilaudid and fentanyl patch I have no desire to take any of these things as far as how it makes me feel but I am just so petrified of the withdraw symptoms I don&#039;t know what to do. I have attempted to wean myself off several times but it just got to be too much. I still have excruciating back pain as well but I am more than ready to be done with these meds!!! Please help : (</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been taking tramadol 50 and vicodine 10 for three years for cronic back pain from a car accident I recently had a serious spine surgery which has put me on dilaudid and fentanyl patch I have no desire to take any of these things as far as how it makes me feel but I am just so petrified of the withdraw symptoms I don&#8217;t know what to do. I have attempted to wean myself off several times but it just got to be too much. I still have excruciating back pain as well but I am more than ready to be done with these meds!!! Please help : (</p>
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		<title>By: Pinkerton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinkerton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 13:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jamie!!
I hear ya on not wanting to take a puppy out in the middle of the night in the middle of the winter!!!!  BUT, I do agree that if you get another before Candy gets old because they do learn so much from another dog.  Housebreaking is much easier.  I like that you would be the one sleeping on the floor...lol.  I will be posting new pictures of Carl and the kids on fb so check them out :)
Congratulations on your anniversary!!!!  

Much Love, Pinkerton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jamie!!<br />
I hear ya on not wanting to take a puppy out in the middle of the night in the middle of the winter!!!!  BUT, I do agree that if you get another before Candy gets old because they do learn so much from another dog.  Housebreaking is much easier.  I like that you would be the one sleeping on the floor&#8230;lol.  I will be posting new pictures of Carl and the kids on fb so check them out <img src='http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Congratulations on your anniversary!!!!  </p>
<p>Much Love, Pinkerton</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pink!!!!! So nice to hear from you! 

I&#039;m doing good, December marks my seven months clean. I&#039;m at a place I had a hard time believing I&#039;d be. And right now my biggest problem is the decision of whether or not to get a new puppy. Candy just turned 8 this month and I want to get one while she still is acting like usual, before she gets too old, so she can teach it how to be like her. I just don&#039;t know if i want to deal with a 6 week old puppy during the winter. Plus with Candy and Jess and a 20lb cat, I may end up sleeping on the floor with one more  lol.

How is everyone else doing? Any exciting Christmas plans?

Love and hugs to all!

Happy Trails,
Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pink!!!!! So nice to hear from you! </p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing good, December marks my seven months clean. I&#8217;m at a place I had a hard time believing I&#8217;d be. And right now my biggest problem is the decision of whether or not to get a new puppy. Candy just turned 8 this month and I want to get one while she still is acting like usual, before she gets too old, so she can teach it how to be like her. I just don&#8217;t know if i want to deal with a 6 week old puppy during the winter. Plus with Candy and Jess and a 20lb cat, I may end up sleeping on the floor with one more  lol.</p>
<p>How is everyone else doing? Any exciting Christmas plans?</p>
<p>Love and hugs to all!</p>
<p>Happy Trails,<br />
Jamie</p>
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		<title>By: Pinkerton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pinkerton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 12:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning everyone!!
I had a few minutes this morning and thought I&#039;d say hello!  How are you Jamie and Kitty?  I&#039;m still struggling with my son, but we are trying new things after another stay in the hospital.  Pray it works.

Alot of new names on here.  New Joe, how are you??  
Darkwing, I hear ya and want you to know that I am praying for you and your wife.  Writing helped me alot through my several detoxes. Love your posts!

Pinkerton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning everyone!!<br />
I had a few minutes this morning and thought I&#8217;d say hello!  How are you Jamie and Kitty?  I&#8217;m still struggling with my son, but we are trying new things after another stay in the hospital.  Pray it works.</p>
<p>Alot of new names on here.  New Joe, how are you??<br />
Darkwing, I hear ya and want you to know that I am praying for you and your wife.  Writing helped me alot through my several detoxes. Love your posts!</p>
<p>Pinkerton</p>
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		<title>By: yella</title>
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		<dc:creator>yella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 03:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shot outs to every one giving advice. I am at a realization stage. First step. Wish i never started this demon. Forgot what it feels like to be normal. I just dont see my self quitimg while my wife keeps taking them. Floating around in paradise. Shes not ganna quit and made that clear. Lol. One day. One day at a time..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shot outs to every one giving advice. I am at a realization stage. First step. Wish i never started this demon. Forgot what it feels like to be normal. I just dont see my self quitimg while my wife keeps taking them. Floating around in paradise. Shes not ganna quit and made that clear. Lol. One day. One day at a time..</p>
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